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		<title>By: Ashley Zinyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley Zinyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing &quot;ionized&quot; water to nothing at all doesn&#039;t seem like a very good control.  Shouldn&#039;t you compare a surface cleaned with &quot;ionized&quot; water with a surface cleaned with tap water from an ordinary, 99-cent spray bottle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing &#8220;ionized&#8221; water to nothing at all doesn&#8217;t seem like a very good control.  Shouldn&#8217;t you compare a surface cleaned with &#8220;ionized&#8221; water with a surface cleaned with tap water from an ordinary, 99-cent spray bottle?</p>
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		<title>By: Monado, FCD</title>
		<link>http://www.billnye.com/for-the-nanobubble-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>Monado, FCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Nye, I&#039;d want to know more before putting my word behind a product like this. Those are scanning electron microscope pictures, so they could not be showing the same bacteria before and after treatment. Aren&#039;t they freeze-dried and covered with a thin layer of metal ions to make them show up in the SEM? Even if not, how would you keep track of them as you moved the slide around, sprayed it with a stream of water that would move them around, and put it back? I see an intact bacterium and a disrupted one (or a piece of fluff), but there&#039;s no way to know what caused the disruption. The technician simply selected a damaged organism for the second shot. 

What activates the water? And if it has an activated bubble in it which lasts for a fraction of a second, how do you apply your bubbles to an entire object before a fraction of a second has passed? If you have to activate right at the spray head and pass the nozzle over the entire surface of the object to be cleaned in tiny passes that don&#039;t miss any surface, I don&#039;t think it would be practical because it would require too much manual labor to make sure that every square cm was treated. 

Seriously, if the power requirements aren&#039;t too great and the equipment is simple enough so that the water can be activated right before it&#039;s applied, it might be useful in a small-volume chamber for cleaning complex surfaces. But steam would last longer and thus be more reliable. 

I think you&#039;re being scammed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Nye, I&#8217;d want to know more before putting my word behind a product like this. Those are scanning electron microscope pictures, so they could not be showing the same bacteria before and after treatment. Aren&#8217;t they freeze-dried and covered with a thin layer of metal ions to make them show up in the SEM? Even if not, how would you keep track of them as you moved the slide around, sprayed it with a stream of water that would move them around, and put it back? I see an intact bacterium and a disrupted one (or a piece of fluff), but there&#8217;s no way to know what caused the disruption. The technician simply selected a damaged organism for the second shot. </p>
<p>What activates the water? And if it has an activated bubble in it which lasts for a fraction of a second, how do you apply your bubbles to an entire object before a fraction of a second has passed? If you have to activate right at the spray head and pass the nozzle over the entire surface of the object to be cleaned in tiny passes that don&#8217;t miss any surface, I don&#8217;t think it would be practical because it would require too much manual labor to make sure that every square cm was treated. </p>
<p>Seriously, if the power requirements aren&#8217;t too great and the equipment is simple enough so that the water can be activated right before it&#8217;s applied, it might be useful in a small-volume chamber for cleaning complex surfaces. But steam would last longer and thus be more reliable. </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re being scammed.</p>
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		<title>By: cgauthier</title>
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		<dc:creator>cgauthier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou, that is hilarious. Do you always meet corporate misinformation agents in blog comment sections? 

Bill, this does seem a tad on the scammy side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, that is hilarious. Do you always meet corporate misinformation agents in blog comment sections? </p>
<p>Bill, this does seem a tad on the scammy side.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an awesome and effective GREEN cleaning tool.  I was given one and IT WORKS.  I keep imagining the possibilities - especially where hygiene and water are scarce or in hospitals, schools etc..  Maybe a &quot;personal size for the car, purse or diaper bag?  I can clean the entire over-sized shower and tub with one quart of water and the amazing thing is that it STAYS CLEANER longer - like almost twice as long.  NO chems down the drain and very little water used.  You can clean the entire bathroom, with exception to below the water line in the toilette bowl.  It works wonders on glass - actually does the scrubbing for you.  Another application is cleaning granite - nothing can come close to making your granite - not only clean - but attractively shiny. After preparing raw meat - I sanitize the hard surface with a spray-down.  I&#039;m not a physical scientist - just a consumer.  In a culture with about a 100 names for soap - there is no wonder why this is not sweeping the janitorial and cleaning worlds...... duh, CORPORATIONS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an awesome and effective GREEN cleaning tool.  I was given one and IT WORKS.  I keep imagining the possibilities &#8211; especially where hygiene and water are scarce or in hospitals, schools etc..  Maybe a &#8220;personal size for the car, purse or diaper bag?  I can clean the entire over-sized shower and tub with one quart of water and the amazing thing is that it STAYS CLEANER longer &#8211; like almost twice as long.  NO chems down the drain and very little water used.  You can clean the entire bathroom, with exception to below the water line in the toilette bowl.  It works wonders on glass &#8211; actually does the scrubbing for you.  Another application is cleaning granite &#8211; nothing can come close to making your granite &#8211; not only clean &#8211; but attractively shiny. After preparing raw meat &#8211; I sanitize the hard surface with a spray-down.  I&#8217;m not a physical scientist &#8211; just a consumer.  In a culture with about a 100 names for soap &#8211; there is no wonder why this is not sweeping the janitorial and cleaning worlds&#8230;&#8230; duh, CORPORATIONS!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATS Labs is a complete joke.  You take them a product and they design a test that helps show it works.  Good grief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATS Labs is a complete joke.  You take them a product and they design a test that helps show it works.  Good grief.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Yang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a couple of comments about Bill&#039;s support of what is almost certainly a well-funded scam.

First, if the description of blown-up E. coli is valid it should be published in the standard way in a refereed journal. Otherwise there is no way to evaluate the work. Valid science is not the product of marketing departments. As Bill well knows. 

Second, whether the Activeion actually works or not - and as yet there is no third party testing which has not been paid for by the manufacturer - there is little doubt that the Activeion company has put out misleading and fraudulent hype, including hiring an advertisting agency to post fake reviews on Amazon. This was proven by an Amazon reviewer, link below. Legitimate companies don&#039;t do thing like this. Shame on you, Bill.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R15Z8EHDR451N5/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

See Comment 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple of comments about Bill&#8217;s support of what is almost certainly a well-funded scam.</p>
<p>First, if the description of blown-up E. coli is valid it should be published in the standard way in a refereed journal. Otherwise there is no way to evaluate the work. Valid science is not the product of marketing departments. As Bill well knows. </p>
<p>Second, whether the Activeion actually works or not &#8211; and as yet there is no third party testing which has not been paid for by the manufacturer &#8211; there is little doubt that the Activeion company has put out misleading and fraudulent hype, including hiring an advertisting agency to post fake reviews on Amazon. This was proven by an Amazon reviewer, link below. Legitimate companies don&#8217;t do thing like this. Shame on you, Bill.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/R15Z8EHDR451N5/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/review/R15Z8EHDR451N5/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm</a></p>
<p>See Comment 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AaronB,

Was there another article or something to get these posts started again? I find the so called evidence provided by Bill as laughable. I just don&#039;t think Bill thought this through enough and got scammed!. I saw an infomercial for this product and the whole audience got one of these devices. It was a joke.

By Bill&#039;s absence from replying to us here raises some eyebrows! Even the old king of the Skeptics was surprised at Bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AaronB,</p>
<p>Was there another article or something to get these posts started again? I find the so called evidence provided by Bill as laughable. I just don&#8217;t think Bill thought this through enough and got scammed!. I saw an infomercial for this product and the whole audience got one of these devices. It was a joke.</p>
<p>By Bill&#8217;s absence from replying to us here raises some eyebrows! Even the old king of the Skeptics was surprised at Bill.</p>
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		<title>By: AaronB</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 03:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for the double post, but I had to comment that every positive review on Amazon is attacked in comments (so far mostly by people who seem to have never touched the product)

While some of the people claim things that could be valid, the majority just cement the repliers standing as a &quot;professional skeptic&quot;

Once again, no matter what, Bill Nye is a class act all the way. And if push comes to shove, I&#039;d take his word over some random post or website on the internet.
(sorry for typos before, 4 year old running about made me forget spellcheck!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for the double post, but I had to comment that every positive review on Amazon is attacked in comments (so far mostly by people who seem to have never touched the product)</p>
<p>While some of the people claim things that could be valid, the majority just cement the repliers standing as a &#8220;professional skeptic&#8221;</p>
<p>Once again, no matter what, Bill Nye is a class act all the way. And if push comes to shove, I&#8217;d take his word over some random post or website on the internet.<br />
(sorry for typos before, 4 year old running about made me forget spellcheck!)</p>
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		<title>By: AaronB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AaronB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 02:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

I dont know if you read coments since you dont seem to reply (your a busy guy!) But I hope this technology works as you say it does. If only as a harmless cleaning agent, it would be worthwhile to get some of the poison from going down our drains.
I would describe myself as not wanting to be labeled a &quot;skeptic&quot;, or a &quot;easy believer&quot; but rather a pragmatic realist, I dream, but question my own dreams. 
I do wish there was more examples, Beyond the molacule images which while interesting, arent &quot;proof&quot; to me. More like eye witness accounts, which as we know, are the least valid evidence there is. I mean even Windex adverts have a close up showing a &quot;streak free&quot; shine. I don&#039;t recall seeing that anywhere. 
Some people say it creates overpriced bleach, from what I see, I disagree, because it seems at worst, it would create TEMPORARY bleach, which is a different thing altogether, much better for the enviroment.
I&#039;ve read Amazon reviews, and most of them arent convincing either way. 

If there was any way there was a more evidence, I would be much happier. However your endorcment goes a loooooong way with me so I lean towards believing because you do.

And to the people who comment about the amount you were paid... A) Be as skeptical of some random web post about how much it is as you are of everything else. and B) For freaken Bill Nye&#039;s seal of approval? That&#039;s worth a lot more than the numbers I&#039;ve seen tossed about by faceless names online.

Anyway just wanted to say I&#039;m not 100% with ya Bill, but I am keeping an open mind. And hope for more evidence, beyond the screams of the full time skeptical community.

Aaron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>I dont know if you read coments since you dont seem to reply (your a busy guy!) But I hope this technology works as you say it does. If only as a harmless cleaning agent, it would be worthwhile to get some of the poison from going down our drains.<br />
I would describe myself as not wanting to be labeled a &#8220;skeptic&#8221;, or a &#8220;easy believer&#8221; but rather a pragmatic realist, I dream, but question my own dreams.<br />
I do wish there was more examples, Beyond the molacule images which while interesting, arent &#8220;proof&#8221; to me. More like eye witness accounts, which as we know, are the least valid evidence there is. I mean even Windex adverts have a close up showing a &#8220;streak free&#8221; shine. I don&#8217;t recall seeing that anywhere.<br />
Some people say it creates overpriced bleach, from what I see, I disagree, because it seems at worst, it would create TEMPORARY bleach, which is a different thing altogether, much better for the enviroment.<br />
I&#8217;ve read Amazon reviews, and most of them arent convincing either way. </p>
<p>If there was any way there was a more evidence, I would be much happier. However your endorcment goes a loooooong way with me so I lean towards believing because you do.</p>
<p>And to the people who comment about the amount you were paid&#8230; A) Be as skeptical of some random web post about how much it is as you are of everything else. and B) For freaken Bill Nye&#8217;s seal of approval? That&#8217;s worth a lot more than the numbers I&#8217;ve seen tossed about by faceless names online.</p>
<p>Anyway just wanted to say I&#8217;m not 100% with ya Bill, but I am keeping an open mind. And hope for more evidence, beyond the screams of the full time skeptical community.</p>
<p>Aaron</p>
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		<title>By: personne</title>
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		<dc:creator>personne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 02:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,
I was provided by Amazon with one of these units. I have written a review of the product on their website.  I wasn&#039;t particularly concerned with the product claims to kill germs, preferring to wait for qualified tests from an unaffiliated lab.  The test results provided by Activion were laughable.  I was reminded of Groucho&#039;s maxim &quot;who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes&quot;.

My interest was in simply seeing if the thing would do basic cleaning.  I tested it against plain old water on a number of surfaces.  I really wanted it to work, but the simple truth is that it doesn&#039;t work any better than water alone.  Did you try that?

Perhaps there&#039;s something to &quot;nano-bubbles&quot;.  Perhaps there&#039;s something to virgin&#039;s tears and eye of newt.  I&#039;d prefer to believe that your wish for green overcame the skepticism that you&#039;ve admirably shown in other areas.  But as far as I&#039;m concerned, your credibility is damaged.  You&#039;ve got work to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
I was provided by Amazon with one of these units. I have written a review of the product on their website.  I wasn&#8217;t particularly concerned with the product claims to kill germs, preferring to wait for qualified tests from an unaffiliated lab.  The test results provided by Activion were laughable.  I was reminded of Groucho&#8217;s maxim &#8220;who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes&#8221;.</p>
<p>My interest was in simply seeing if the thing would do basic cleaning.  I tested it against plain old water on a number of surfaces.  I really wanted it to work, but the simple truth is that it doesn&#8217;t work any better than water alone.  Did you try that?</p>
<p>Perhaps there&#8217;s something to &#8220;nano-bubbles&#8221;.  Perhaps there&#8217;s something to virgin&#8217;s tears and eye of newt.  I&#8217;d prefer to believe that your wish for green overcame the skepticism that you&#8217;ve admirably shown in other areas.  But as far as I&#8217;m concerned, your credibility is damaged.  You&#8217;ve got work to do.</p>
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